[OpendTect_Developers] What is the actual state of the project?

Júlio Hoffimann julio.hoffimann at gmail.com
Fri Nov 5 14:56:21 CET 2010


Hi Bert,

Understood, as i said, i don't know how hard is develop this packages to a
particular distribution. I was thinking in Debian based only.

OFF-TOPIC: You know some distribution dedicated to geoscientists? Like
CAElinux is for engineers:

http://caelinux.com/CMS/

Júlio.

2010/11/5 Bert Bril <bert at opendtect.org>

> Hi all,
>
>
> Júlio wrote:
>
> > The installation difficulty increase is insignificant and Makeself
> > is not crucial:
>
> Of course not. And *not* having it is also not crucial IMO. We thought
> it would be easier for almost everybody.
>
>
> > But the better approach in Linux systems is to use distribution's
> > repositories. You don't need to dispense time creating an installer for
> > Linux. I don't know how hard is it, but certainly is the better approach
> > to disseminate OpendTect in such systems.
> [snip]
> > Every Linux distribution (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, Fedora,
> > Suse, ...) has it's own "software center", a program capable of download
> > and install softwares in repositories with one click.
>
> You cannot be serious. Do you know how many distros are out there? Life
> would indeed be easy if there was just one of these centers used by
> every distro. Oh and then of course all distros would have to be exactly
> the same of course, or it couldn't work either. Then, we'd gladly invest
> time to figure out how to make RPMs or whatever is used by the
> particular distro (and ehhh ... 'easy', yes for users maybe). Have you
> ever tried to make something non-trivial (and yes, OpendTect is
> non-trivial) that works across all Linux distros? I mean: even the
> *same* distro usually has lots of versions of packages and tools around.
> And those often don't work even if the description says it should work.
>
> Look at Skype. I have tried many times to install their SuSE package,
> and it always fails on some dependent libs. Luckily, I can fall back to
> their 'static' (in your eyes complex) release. That at least works. I
> have used RH, Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS and more and they all have
> different tools, packages, versions, ... A nightmare.
>
> So, we distribute things that are minimally dependent on distro-specific
> things. We actually have ONE SINGLE package for Linux 64 bits! It works
> on ALL DISTROS! Even distros that we've never even HEARD of! I don't
> expect an applause (oh well maybe I do), but we spend a lot of time
> figuring out how to do this, and your comments sound rather off the mark.
>
>
> > There is a rumor that Microsoft will copy this feature too in Windows 8.
>
> I rather dislike M$ Windows but at least then you'd know you'd have to
> invest time only once. They have a much smaller 'distro' problem.
>
>
>
> /Bert
>
> --
> -- Bert Bril / OpendTect developer at dGB
> -- mailto:Bert.Bril at opendtect.org , http://opendtect.org
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